It makes sense to engage in cryonics, only realizing that there is no soul

American cryocompany Alcor distributed the following statement of one of his “patients”:

It makes sense to do cryonics only by realizing that there is no soulA photo from open sources “In view of the inevitable end – and cancer, spreading through her brain, – Kim took bold decision to stop eating foods and liquids. Despite it took her 11 days for her body to stop function.

Around 6 a.m. on Thursday January 17, 2013 Alcor company was notified that Kim had stopped breathing. Because persistent Kim’s boyfriend and her family placed Kim all in the distance A few minutes drive from Alcor, Director of Medical Aaron Drake was able to respond almost instantly, then Max More arrived, and then two well-trained volunteers Alcor.

As soon as the hospice sister proclaimed her clinical death, we started our standard procedures. Stabilization, transport, surgery and perfusion went smoothly. Soon to be published more detailed report”.

Writes Alexei Turchin: “Bald Moustached Mom Darwin was able to convince me that cryonics is necessary. Some years ago in Moscow, he told me: “Cryonics was defeated.” Over 50 years, about 200 people were frozen, and several died billions. More people glued birds on the roofs of houses at the Parsis in Bombay – according to the faith of the last descendants of the Zoroastrians, that’s exactly proper funerals must take place. More people fell from a donkey and has died. More people flew into space. But somehow his pessimism was more convincing than beautiful promises utopians.

Seven months ago, Kim Suozzi wrote on reddit: “Today is my 23rd birthday and most likely the last. I have aggressive form of glioblastoma. Is there anything important that I should I try before I die? ”

She received 4171 comments. She was offered a lot: sex, suborbital travels. One comment reminded her that there is cryonics – the practice of freezing people to subsequent return to life in the future. She knew about it and before, but did not relate to itself.

One of the main mysteries of cryonics is its unpopularity. They say cryonics does not work. But people do a huge mass of things that obviously they cannot and should not work: they eat homeopathy, they inject whose stem cells are unknown, they build giant gravestones. Doing and knowingly more expensive and meaningless things – they buy personal yachts, travel to the South Pole, build bunkers in case atomic warfare. Even if we consider cryonics as one of the most strange actions among many, it should be more popular. Purely statistically.

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Kim appealed to the readers of “Reddit” with a request to collect the necessary 30-50 thousand dollars to freeze the brain after death. I note that this is less than usually requested for cancer treatment sick. Of course, they gave her almost nothing – they offered money for Skydiving. Ultimately, Alcor paid for it. cryopreservation itself. Contrary to illusion, cryonics has always been unprofitable.

I knew about the existence of cryonics from school – and yet not was her supporter. I was afraid of death in adulthood and was looking all the ways to defend against her – but did not remember cryonics. I found out about the opening of cryofirm in Russia and still continued to believe that it does not concern me. And now I have to try to understand how that is exactly how Mike convinced me. Was it a “direct broadcast” inner confidence, as from one Zen master to another, or did he find a rational argument that could convince me?

Kim chose actual suicide in order to get the highest quality cryopreservation, that is, to die near with the best existing cryocompany and so that its employees can gain access to her body immediately after death. It is believed that cryonics is impossible because ice crystals tear tissue brain. But modern cryonics involves a perfusion procedure when instead of blood, liquid is injected into the body that has just died, enriched with glycerin and other substances that interfere crystal formation. As a result, the brain and its core information encoded in synapse structures is stored. Someday this information can be extracted from there, and in In principle, it is already clear how this can be done, for example, by layer-by-layer brain scans or brain restoration using nanorobots.

American blogger and economist Robin Hanson develops a theory about the fact that a person has two modes of thinking – near and far. IN long-distance mode, we believe that death is needed, since humanity there will be overpopulation. In close mode, we will fight for your life or frantically dial an ambulance number. Abstract-theoretical constructions in the distant mode affect the behavior in a real situation when the near mode. A huge number of people who were verbally supporters the cryonics died without ever attempting to conclude a cryocontract.

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I did not take cryonics seriously, because I thought it was make the weirdest rich people in America and I will never have that much money to pay her – but even that I didn’t think, because for me cryonics was something far and inaccessible. But I could find out that in the same America it is available to almost anyone through life insurance system. Perhaps also the native of the islands thinks about the possibility of calling an ambulance. This is basically correct, but impossible. And he continues to think so, even when the ambulance is already there is a boat on a neighboring island.

People, when they hear about the possibility of cryonics, begin to object. AND you, reader, already have a good objection on the way. All objections have already been parsed several times, and the very fact of objection suggests that the internal antivirus of your consciousness decided to block another radical.

A favorite objection is that nobody has been thawed yet. If we already had cryonics damage repair technologies, namely, medical nanorobots, then we would not freeze most diseases would be treatable. Also great human embryos and non-method worms are frozen for decades and some animals can survive on the ice for a hundred years. The branches of trees in winter in the frost still remain alive and may bloom in spring.

Another favorite objection is that a person will lose after death soul and after returning to life will be without a soul. There is immediately a paradox in such pseudo-religious reasoning, since usually the same people claim that the embryo has a soul from the moment conceptions, and the fact is that tens of thousands of embryos were frozen and thawed during IVF, and then what happened to their souls? Of course if if there is a soul and God, then God will be able to return the soul to the returned to life body. Or he is not omnipotent. Or do we know in advance everything he can want or not want to do. Some people were returned to a full life four hours after death when she accompanied by rapid cooling, for example, when they fell through the ice. Of course, if they restore not the same the most nerve cells, and by scanning into a computer, then here you can raise the howl to heaven on the topic that the computer cannot be consciousness or it will not be the same consciousness – and there is endless possibilities for scholastic reasoning, the result which will be that nothing has been done to save at all will be. I’m writing the book “On Immortality”, and there is a huge chapter will be about the so-called question “about the identity of copies.”

Mike Darwin managed to transfer the cryonics problem for me from abstraction into reality. From the mention in the book – to the project specific person. From distant thinking to the near. Of abstractions into a tool.

But still the unpopularity of cryonics remains for me a riddle. One of the reasons here is that it’s a funeral ritual, completely excluding the religious-mystical principle. Cryonics it makes sense to do it only by clearly telling yourself that there is no soul, but personality is information in the brain. Of course, everyone says it himself in your ear when applying a chemical to changes in the state of consciousness – at least coffee or alcohol, – since thereby recognizes that chemistry is the main thing in the work of his personality. But even this explanation is not enough. Same Soviet cremation is also a completely atheistic way of getting rid of tel.

Humans are, in a sense, biorobots under pressure of ideas about what is really normal. All do – and me. Bury in a Christian way. I do not understand what the original the meaning of Christian burial lies precisely in the possibility of physical resurrection of the dead.

Jesus Christ was transhuman in his own way. He is in word and deed struggled with death. He raised the dead and promised the physical the resurrection of all who believe in him. Possibility of it he demonstrated by his own resurrection. Early christians they expected a quick resurrection of the dead and for this they kept their bodies, while the Romans cremated the dead. Essentially for this invented the coffin as such a capsule for storing the body. The bodies were stored inside the temple under the floor, in greater holiness and preservation. Only in XVIII century French rationalists helped end this practice, as shown that the stench of decaying bodies is the cause of disease. Coffins were sent to cemeteries.

The early church fathers doubted the need to preserve the bodies – for if God is omnipotent, then why does he need bodies? You can also reason and about cryonics – if in the future superstrong is created artificial intelligence, then he will find a way to resurrect the dead and without the help of saved tel. One thing only worries: why, if he so omnipotent, he did not create a time machine and did not deliver us from suffering right now?

And such considerations immediately transfer the problem to distant mode thinking, turn it into scholasticism, in the analogy of the question of how many angels will fit on a pin and whether God can create a stone that cannot lift.

Meanwhile, the terminally ill girl refused to drink and eat to bring your death closer and get the highest quality cryopreservation. ”

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